\"The Phoenix Project\" and \"The Unicorn Project\" author Gene Kim

Engineering | Josh Long | January 30, 2020 | ...

Hi, Spring fans! In this episode, Josh Long (@starbuxman) talks to "The Phoenix Project" and "The Unicorn Project" author Gene Kim (@RealGeneKim) about #DevOps, his experience of the industry, IT organizations and a MILLION TRILLION other things. I'd listen to this one first!

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